Arghhh... seems to be a good topic of discussion... but I will probably
miss it as I will leave Toulouse around 8am and come by car :'(

Charles.

Le mardi 06 juillet 2010 à 11:37 +0200, Sylvain Joyeux a écrit :
> About the agenda:
>
> One topic I feel is actually important (if not "critical"), but less
> related to the RTT directly is system integration. We all use the RTT to
> build systems in different ways (I know I do since I don't see what
> services are good for for instance ...), and I feel it would be
> important to discuss how we do things.
>
> In other words: to understand the many ways the RTT can be used to build
> robots.
>
> I guess monday would be the day for that. I feel that a four hour talk
> about RTT 2.0 is ... well ... long, so maybe we could allocate some time
> to talk about that.
>
> What do you guys think ?
>
> Sylvain

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On Apr 13, 2010, at 08:11 , Sylvain Joyeux wrote:

> Place: Barcelona (PAL offices)
> Date: 19th of July
>
> If you need sponsorship, contact Peter at peter [..] ...
>
> Agenda:
>
> Add your ideas, and review other people's ideas, at
>
> http://orocos.org/wiki/rtt/1st-rtt-developers-workshop
>
> I'll do a compilation and propose an agenda mid-June (probably).

10 weeks to go. Some of us need to buy tickets and hotels fairly soon.

1) Can someone please bound the days and times, so that we can figure out when to arrive leave (don't need a full agenda). Are we thinking of starting early-ish Monday morning and wrapping up mid-afternoon Friday?

2) Can someone please recommend a convenient, decent, nearby hotel.

Thanks
Stephen

Hi everybody,

Probably you have a good view of what you are doing each other in Orocos
development as you discuss a lot, but I personnaly do not have this view.

I hope I will be able to join you for the developer's workshop (still
have to validate some administrative stuffs with my chiefs). In that
case, I think it could be a good idea to start the workshop by
presenting myself, i.e. the projects in which we use Orocos, and the
development we have planned around it. Such topics include already
scheduled topics, and others:
- use in supervision and planning,
- validation of Orocos components and architectures,
- the toolchain: I'm currently in contact with LAAS people -- Félix
Ingrand and Anthony Mallet for people who know them -- to have Genom
generate Orocos code.

It could be a good idea that each people present themself, their lab and
Orocos related projects and developments to start the workshop, doesn't it?

Charles.

Sylvain Joyeux wrote:
> Place: Barcelona (PAL offices)
> Date: 19th of July
>
> If you need sponsorship, contact Peter at peter [..] ...
>
> Agenda:
>
> Add your ideas, and review other people's ideas, at
>
> http://orocos.org/wiki/rtt/1st-rtt-developers-workshop
>
> I'll do a compilation and propose an agenda mid-June (probably).
>
>

When all the developers agree to prepare the meeting in Barcelona, we'll be
glad to prepare the event in the best way.
;-)

Francesco Ferro

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> There has been only three votes for now, and the consensus is on Barcelona.
>
> I think we should decide soon, so that the flight prices don't skyrocket
> for Stephen. So, unless someone speaks against it before the end of the
> week, I guess we can decide on going towards the sun (it means something
> here ;-)).
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Sylvain Joyeux wrote:
> So, we have everyone available the 19th of July, so I guess it will be
> the date ;-)
>
> On the place, we still have three options
> - Leuven
> - Bremen
> - Barcelona (if it is possible for the PAL guys at this date).
>
> I had no mail about what you guys prefer ... So tell me !
>
> Sylvain
>
I prefer Barcelona, Bremen, Leuven

On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 10:24, Sylvain Joyeux <sylvain [dot] joyeux [..] ...> wrote:
> So, we have everyone available the 19th of July, so I guess it will be
> the date ;-)
>
> On the place, we still have three options
>  - Leuven
>  - Bremen
>  - Barcelona (if it is possible for the PAL guys at this date).
>
> I had no mail about what you guys prefer ... So tell me !

I prefer Barcelona first, then Leuven, then Bremen.

Peter

On Mar 22, 2010, at 05:24 , Sylvain Joyeux wrote:

> So, we have everyone available the 19th of July, so I guess it will be
> the date ;-)
>
> On the place, we still have three options
> - Leuven
> - Bremen
> - Barcelona (if it is possible for the PAL guys at this date).
>
> I had no mail about what you guys prefer ... So tell me !
>
> Sylvain

I prefer Leuven first, then Barcelona second, and Bremen last (only as flights from the US are more expensive and have more connections).
Stephen

here at PAL we don't have any problem with this date.

By the way, how many people are expect to come?

Davide

On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 10:24 AM, Sylvain Joyeux <sylvain [dot] joyeux [..] ...>wrote:

> So, we have everyone available the 19th of July, so I guess it will be
> the date ;-)
>
> On the place, we still have three options
> - Leuven
> - Bremen
> - Barcelona (if it is possible for the PAL guys at this date).
>
> I had no mail about what you guys prefer ... So tell me !
>
> Sylvain
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On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 10:05, Sylvain Joyeux <sylvain [dot] joyeux [..] ...> wrote:
> Sylvain Joyeux wrote:
>>   * my email address. If you want to come, drop me *in any case* a line
>> so that I have an idea of who is interested.
>>   * a doodle page at http://doodle.com/p53xzp6qmqzpx8x
> The doodle is still missing at least Peter ...
>
> If you can't fill it, but intend to participate, drop me a line so that
> I know who's missing and who's not.

I was in a fuzzy state...

The two last weeks of june and first of july are missing. Why ?

Peter

Markus Klotzbuecher wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 08, 2010 at 11:56:30AM +0100, Sylvain Joyeux wrote:
>
>> Hello everyone.
>>
>> Peter, Herman and myself talked last week about organizing a developer's
>> workshop.
>>
>> Ideally, it would be a one full week meeting. It would have two goals:
>>
>> * the first goal is to get everybody together, and lay out /as a
>> project/ the future of the RTT and associated tools. I.e. have us talk
>> about what's missing, where we want to go, and how we can go there
>> /together/
>> * the second goal would be to *code*. I.e. benefit from these
>> discussions to progress on the code level, at least prototyping part of
>> the ideas that will pop up during the meeting
>>
>> The focus of that meeting is the toolchain (RTT and tools) *not* the
>> application. I.e. don't come to get help to integrate your robot, but to
>> get help while you are adding the functionality that you need to
>> integrate your robot (I'm not sure I will be able to understand that
>> sentence myself in a week or so, but I hope you get the point ;-)).
>>
>> To help organizing that, a few things:
>> * where: there are two choices. Either Leuven or Bremen. If money is
>> an issue, Bremen has a Youth Hostel that is quite nice. Send me an email
>> to give me your preference.
>> * my email address. If you want to come, drop me *in any case* a line
>> so that I have an idea of who is interested.
>> * a doodle page at http://doodle.com/p53xzp6qmqzpx8x7
>> Doodle does not support selecting weeks, so select the monday of the
>> weeks you are comfortable with. Obviously, it is possible to not come
>> the whole week if you cannot ;-).
>> * a wiki page where you can add the stuff you would like to discuss
>> and/or code.
>> http://orocos.org/wiki/rtt/1st-rtt-developers-workshop
>>
>> I hope you will find that prospect as interesting as I do ;-)
>>
>
> A developer meeting would be great! But for me the dates are too
> early.
>
I extended it towards July. During the discussion with Peter, we both
felt that an early meeting would be nice.

Moreover, on a personal level, I'm going to invest quite a bit of time
in the toolchain in the next three months, especially for multi-robot.
Also I'm going to leave DFKI, probably at the end of summer, so it would
also have been better for me if I had time to get "in line" with what we
discuss in the meeting before I leave.

Well ... Let's doodle decide ! ;-)

Sylvain

On Mon, 8 Mar 2010, Philippe Hamelin wrote:

> Speaking of meeting, I think last year there was a user meeting (EURON 2009), which was a
> little less technical but more application-oriented. Since our organization now uses
> Orocos in several of his projects, I would like to eventually meet the Orocos community to
> discuss about future ideas and on their specific actual implementations. I know it's too
> late for EURON 2010 since its being held this week. However, are there discussions about a
> user meeting in the near future? It would be a good opportunity for us to talk about our
> experience of Orocos and talk about the problems we encountered.

Personally, I would suggest to couple the user and developers meetings,
because I expect more reactions like this one from Philippe... Maybe both
can have a common track, while the "coding sessions" of the developers
meeting are replaced by "design sessions" for the users meeting...

Herman
>
> Philippe
>
> 2010/3/8 Sylvain Joyeux <sylvain [dot] joyeux [..] ...>
> Hello everyone.
>
> Peter, Herman and myself talked last week about organizing a developer's
> workshop.
>
> Ideally, it would be a one full week meeting. It would have two goals:
>
>  * the first goal is to get everybody together, and lay out /as a
> project/ the future of the RTT and associated tools. I.e. have us talk
> about what's missing, where we want to go, and how we can go there
> /together/
>  * the second goal would be to *code*. I.e. benefit from these
> discussions to progress on the code level, at least prototyping part of
> the ideas that will pop up during the meeting
>
> The focus of that meeting is the toolchain (RTT and tools) *not* the
> application. I.e. don't come to get help to integrate your robot, but to
> get help while you are adding the functionality that you need to
> integrate your robot (I'm not sure I will be able to understand that
> sentence myself in a week or so, but I hope you get the point ;-)).
>
> To help organizing that, a few things:
>  * where: there are two choices. Either Leuven or Bremen. If money is
> an issue, Bremen has a Youth Hostel that is quite nice. Send me an email
> to give me your preference.
>  * my email address. If you want to come, drop me *in any case* a line
> so that I have an idea of who is interested.
>  * a doodle page at http://doodle.com/p53xzp6qmqzpx8x7
>   Doodle does not support selecting weeks, so select the monday of the
> weeks you are comfortable with. Obviously, it is possible to not come
> the whole week if you cannot ;-).
>  * a wiki page where you can add the stuff you would like to discuss
> and/or code.
>     http://orocos.org/wiki/rtt/1st-rtt-developers-workshop
>
> I hope you will find that prospect as interesting as I do ;-)
>
> --
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> Researcher - Space and Security Robotics
> DFKI Robotics Innovation Center
> Bremen, Robert-Hooke-Straße 5, 28359 Bremen, Germany
>
> Phone:   +49 421 218-64136
> Fax:     +49 421 218-64150
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>
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